mananath ([info]mananath) wrote,
@ 2008-05-11 13:44:00
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how I went about getting a job in Antarctica
(some have asked)
Short answer: found out Raytheon is the contractor for NSF, later found out that Nana Services is a sub contractor, submitted my resume and spent about 100 minutes interviewing for said position. the end.

Long answer:

About a year ago there was a story in my local paper (Newsday) that focused on people with.. unique jobs. One of the featured folks, a former resident of LI, was/is working at Antarctica. She explained what the job was like, how it felt to live down there and then finally how she went ahead and got the job. More importantly she mentioned the hiring company. I found this all very interesting and did a little research on the web but dismissed it with the notion of "ahh, but I could never do anything like that."

However the idea stuck with me, even if it was only prowling the back of my mind.

I don't recall exactly how I got interested in this again. I don't remember if I read something recently or if the idea simply made its way back to the front of my mind. About a month ago I started looking into it with a renewed sense of interest. I started tracking down all the blogs I could find on the web and reading about the writers experiences. I found the website for the company, Raytheon, that does the hiring and started browsing through all the job listings but I didn't see any of the entry level ones I was counting on. I assumed that they were all hired already and came close to giving up the search but then I came across someone on LJ who previously worked there and asked her about it. From her I learned that Raytheon had subcontracted the position I was interested in out to a company called Nana services. This is why I couldn't find the entry level jobs on the Raytheon site.

While this was useful information I was still far from actually getting a job. All the research I had did pretty much suggested that the only way to get hired was to attend the annual job fair in Denver. No hiring actually goes on at the fair but you are given a chance to speak to the hiring managers and sell yourself. The idea is that you will get a few names of people to keep in touch with and that your impression will make them look for your resume amongst all the others. There are usually hundreds of applications for the few jobs (about 1,100 people work at McMurdo during the "summer" season) so any edge that you can get is important. I had missed it by about a week but in truth I don't think I would have flown out there just for the job fair.

I was discouraged by all this and considered not bothering to apply as I figured it would be a waste of my time. I was also asking myself if I really wanted to do it, if it would be worth it if I ended up getting offered a job. I also asked myself if I would mentally be able to do the job. Finally, weighing all my other lucrative options, I said the hell with it and sent an email off to the HR department at Nana. I just wanted to know if they were still hiring. I was dipping my toe in.

I got a response within an hour saying that they were and the next day I finished up my resume and submitted it. Later that day I got an email from someone different asking me three qualifying questions. I answered quickly and then didn't hear anything. My head was filled with dejection and disappointment. I cursed myself for getting excited about something that was no guarantee. I felt a fool for doing all this research for nothing. But, then, a few days later I got a call from the guy who does the hiring for the janitors and we spoke for about 15 minutes. He was very upfront with me, told me the very low salary and mentioned some of the other downsides. He was trying to make sure that I wasn't going into this blinded by an ideal of adventure that wouldn't match the reality. Afterwards he started going over some of the benefits and I wanted to stop him and say "Dude, stop, you had me at Antarctica" but I didn't and at the end of the conversation he told me that he was going to have an application emailed to me which I would need to fill out and return.

I think I impressed him for a few reasons. I was really quick to respond to all of their questions and made it a point to have the application returned within 14 hrs. I found out about the job the hardway by my own research I had sought them out. They had posted it on hotjobs which I didn't realize until after the search. Once my application was submitted we scheduled an interview and at the end he asked for some references. After calling both of them he offered me a job. It was exactly 2 weeks after I had sent in my initial resume.

However, I am not actually done yet. The job offer I received is conditional. First I need to go and have my urine tested for drugs. Then I need to get myself physically qualified to go down on the ice. This involves a pretty in depth medical exam and some blood work. What sucks is that I just saw my doctor about a month ago for a physical and was reminded how much I hate dealing with his office. The good thing is that I shouldn't have any problems getting past this clearance, once I actually get the appointment. In addition to that I have to have a dental exam which is a cause of concern for me. While they will pay for the exam and the Xrays they won't pay for any work that needs to be done. Since I, foolishly, dropped my dental insurance after I left Borders this could get expensive. My last exam was September and I ended up having 3 cavities filled. Each one cost 190 (I love it. In Ecuador Y charges 20 for a filling). I can only hope that my teeth haven't deteriorated much since then. If I need something extensive I will have to reconsider.

Once that is all completed I will be able to breath a little easier as I would finally, officially, have a job. Then it is simply a matter of waiting for the end of August to arrive so I can being my 6 month job.

So that is how I got a job in Antarctica.

Links:
Raytheon Polar Services
Nana Services
US Antarctic Program



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[info]onceupon
2008-05-11 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Oh, Raytheon! I'm working at Lockheed Martin right now. Should we arrange a match to the death?

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[info]mananath
2008-05-11 08:02 pm UTC (link)
well... technically I will be working for Nana BUT I am always up for a good fight to the death. It stirs the blood. bring it on!

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[info]raylenetaskoski
2008-05-11 11:54 pm UTC (link)
on a maybe-funny aside, when I first met my husband he could only remember the ray part of my name because he kept thinking of Raytheon. And, since we've met, ... the whole reason we were IN Orlando is because he worked for Lockheed. :D

...raylene

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[info]milestogo13
2008-05-11 08:45 pm UTC (link)
My father was one of the head meteorologists and an assistant station manager down there for two year-long tours and one six-monther over the last five years. They've actually been riding him pretty much every year to come back on as the winter-over manager one season, and he's seriously considering it. Mention Don to someone down there, see what happens.

Or, failing that, scream "It's ketchup day!" and see who plays along.

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[info]mananath
2008-05-11 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Out of curiosity, mainly because I am wondering what people do when they are not working down there, what does your dad do now?

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[info]kishenehn
2008-05-11 09:39 pm UTC (link)
I've known two people who worked down there, though I'm not sure of the specific location they were at. They both spend their summers working in Glacier Park, and it was a perfect setup -- they left for Antarctica right after the Glacier hotels closed for the season, and then after Antarctica they had a couple of months to travel before heading back to Montana for another summer.

One of these people has done this for like three years now, and it seems to be a good fit for him. The other person did it for one season and went utterly stir crazy, and she's vowed to never go back. :)

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[info]raylenetaskoski
2008-05-11 11:52 pm UTC (link)
I considered such a job when I lived in Alaska and I was 20. It was a pipeline job, 5 months on, 1 month off and I was young and the amount of money seemed tremendous to me ... but I also had a 2 year old and as much I really want to do something exciting and different, I knew that being away from my kidlet 5 months at a time wasn't it.

Now I sell Romance Enchancement Products ... and that's about as exciting as it's going to get!!

Good luck with the dentist. I'm trying to figure out how to pay my 50% of a root canal right now.

...raylene

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[info]sageautumn
2008-05-12 01:46 am UTC (link)
For the possible dental issues... ...have you considered schools? Around here they're half or under what a private practice charges.

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[info]tesseractyl
2008-05-12 02:06 am UTC (link)
strangely enough a good friend of the family works for raytheon, and she told me about positions in antartica. she really wanted to hook a bunch of us up for a summer there (a bunch of us being a bunch of college kids.) she thought it would be a good experience. i passed on the offer though, i don't know what i would do with myself down there. i really need to be in the city to feel like i'm part of civilization, otherwise i start getting lonely and edgy.

congrats though, it seems like you might really enjoy it!

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[info]sm_campbell
2008-05-14 04:14 pm UTC (link)
I got curious and had to look into this...looks like they are still hiring. how long will you be there for? they don't mention this on the site.

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[info]mananath
2008-05-14 04:26 pm UTC (link)
it depends what "season" you go down for. I am going to be a part of what they call "winfly" which starts in mid-late August and goes until late October when the "mainbody" season begins. I will be staying for that as well. Both of those seasons end at the end of Feb when the "winter" season begins. Winter runs until Winfly starts in August. During the winter season it is dark all the time, extremely cold and there are no flights out so you are stuck there. I hear that the tradition after the last plane leaves at the start of the season is to watch The Shining.

Most jobs are hired for the mainbody season so you would be down there from late Oct to late Feb.

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[info]sgtbiffo
2008-12-02 04:54 am UTC (link)
I've always wanted to go to Antartica since I read my great-grandfathers journal of being on the Aurora that when down to pick up (but didn't) Sir Douglas Mawson. My uncle still has a stuffed emperor penguin he made while down there.

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[info]amante_donne
2008-12-04 12:23 pm UTC (link)
superb story about how you got the job, just goes to show that some things are worth going for.

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[info]jadziads9
2008-12-04 07:39 pm UTC (link)
It's so random that you've been spotlighted/spotlit? My English fails me at the moment. It's random for me because I've ALWAYS been fascinated with Antarctica, mostly because I like cold weather. I live in California, and it's now December and it's been 70 during the day. Boo! I'll go on yahoo weather and see the temps where you are and dream... :) Thanks for sharing your adventures!

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[info]mananath
2008-12-07 05:42 pm UTC (link)
it's a lot warmer here than you might imagine. I often walk around outside wearing only a tshirt. It's going to be high 30s this week -- positively balmy!

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[info]jadziads9
2008-12-08 08:24 am UTC (link)
Ah 30s sounds nice to me. What appeals to me about there is that part of the year when it's nice and sunny, but cold. That's the thing about here, though. It gets down to 30s but only at night. Not sure if I'd like the dark part of the year, though, haha. It sounds scary :p

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[info]silvermare
2008-12-07 05:21 am UTC (link)
Out of curiosity, what were the qualifying questions? I've dreamed of working in Antarctica off and on for the last ten years, but have never gone beyond the daydream stage. I don't care about the low wages. Just the idea of being paid to experience Antarctica is enough for me. The place has always fascinated me.

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[info]mananath
2008-12-07 05:41 pm UTC (link)
oh it really depends on what it is you are coming down here to do. If you have a trade skill you will probably have an easier time getting a job because there will be less competition. If you are like me and have no technical or trade skills you will be competing against thousands of other people for the few "unskilled jobs": janitor, dining attendant and general assistant. Janitor is a pretty sweet entry level job down here as it gets you out around town a bit, most folks do that for a year and then network where they really want to work. I would have done a DA job but having been down here i don't think I would now -- it's a lot of washing dishes, inconvenient schedules and you never get to leave the dining hall. GA jobs are pretty sweet but harder to get you could be doing anything but will most likely be shoveling a lot of snow, of course you could be doing that at a field camp or the Pole which makes up for it. For now those first two positions are hired through Nana Services and the latter is through raytheon.

When interviewed you should expect to at least be asked about why you want to come to A and if you just say "for adventure or to see penguins" you will probably not get hired because your expectations are unrealistic.

The main initial qualifying question is if you have, or can get, a passport.

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[info]ficali
2009-04-19 05:51 am UTC (link)
I doubt you'll answer (btw I used to be xstillxframex) but I was wondering what the art department is like down there? I'm a Graphic Design major and would love to have a graphic arts related job down there. Or something of that nature!

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[info]mananath
2009-04-19 07:58 am UTC (link)
yeah, there is nothing at all like that. sorry. There are certainly jobs where you could probably use those skills but for the most part the jobs down here are trade jobs, manual grunt labor, or things like pilots etc....

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Antarctica
(Anonymous)
2009-04-22 08:44 pm UTC (link)
I have been through the same situation as you now trying to find the right position for next season. My friend went to the job fair in Seattle today for about 10 minutes just to find out about NANA. Personally I am most interested in an assistant position, as I just graduated with a degree in biology and am most geared towards the research aspect. Do you think that position supports the researchers at all? I am going to a Raytheon polar services info session tomorrow in Seattle. Do you think its worth it? Perhaps they can shed a little more light on the jobs and this whole process for me.

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Re: Antarctica
[info]mananath
2009-04-24 06:58 pm UTC (link)
well, technically we all support the scientists but some of the assistants (I am assuming you mean General Assistants) work much more closely with the researchers. Of course by assistance I mean things like shoveling snow, setting up tents etc. The plus is that GAs often get to go to a field camp or something. These jobs are very low paying and very covetted. All of the positions have probably already been filled for the upcoming season.

Keep in mind that the researchers often bring their own team with them and have grad students for the actual science assistance.

NANA is probably your best bet for getting down here at this point as, at least for janitors, they are still hiring. But not for long.

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[info]gordwick
2009-11-12 08:41 pm UTC (link)
I don't think I would ever go to Antarctica for a new job. I admire you for your courage but I wouldn't be able to trade my home job with another one in a different hostile place. I have a flexible schedule and a time clock software tells my boss how much I've been working in a period of time. I hope you have a good salary in Antarctica otherwise I wouldn't be able to understand why you picked this job.

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